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LJ has a new profile page. Some people like it, some people are ambivalent, and some people hate it. Following many months of beta testing (in which I took part, and which was announced in a lj-news post and open to all users) the new profile recently went live.

During beta testing many suggestions which were made by users were taken into account and applied to the profile page.

Upon the release of the new profile page, immediately people starting screaming and wailing. LJ-design opened up a post for people to specify what they had issue with. The comments primarily consisted of non-constructive comments, many of which claiming that the majority of LJ users were against this as evidenced by the copious amount of comments. There were a few comments which specified issues and were quite constructive and I suspect useful to the designers.

I strongly suspect that a lot of the dislike of the new layout is the newness and change. People don't generally like change.

A common complaint I saw in the various comments against the profile was that the journal stats were "now public". Journal stats of most recent activity, post count, tags, etc. was always public and easily accessible- it's just now grouped with other journal stat and action links (which makes a lot more sense to me).

Another complaint was the use of the horizontal rules. While I can see these being somewhat aesthetically displeasing on profile pages with the minimum of content, on profiles consisting of a larger bio area, a large interests field, and a large friends field, in my opinion it really breaks the content up into a much easier to view section.

People also were complaining that their profile no longer allowed them to differentiate themselves from everyone else. I find this befuddling- isn't that what the bio area and the entirety of your journal for? Having common layout and appearance for bio pages makes sense from a navigational standpoint. Your journal is where you shine and pour in your personality.

I personally find the edit links quite handy, rather than hoop jumping link to link to link to edit a section of my profile.

While I can understand people being upset I feel like this kneejerk reaction of railing against LJ and threatening them with the great flounce off is a little overkill. If you are honestly that concerned about the design and layout aspects of common LJ pages why not take place in the beta testing? I was shocked how few people actually took part. LJ also simply needs some time to figure out the best way to approach this, if it should be approached at all.

As of today, 1,880,805 active accounts exist on LiveJournal. If every comment on the lj-design post about the profile update were a unique user it would calculate to approximately .25% of active users who had issues with the new design. If I go so far as to take the number of comments as of this morning, prior to a few comments of my own with these numbers, into the number of accounts which have updated in the past 24 hours (172763 accounts) I still only get 2.7%.

While every user is important, from a business standpoint this is well within reasonable operating perameters. Those who are jumping up and down claiming that the majority of users hate this as evidenced by comments simply don't understand the true size of LJ.

My mind is getting fuzzy again from my cold... more to come on this later...

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beeporama.livejournal.com
I think people should be forced to subscribe to lj-news, or at least it should default that way for new accounts.

I don't like the new layout, but it's just aesthetic, and I don't really care that much.

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martygreene.livejournal.com
It used to be a default, but I don't know if it still is.

Out of curiosity what about the new layout do you dislike?

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beeporama.livejournal.com
It's a lot more "businesslike" with all those stats at the top, which is purely aesthetic.

When I go to a profile page, I am almost always looking for a link to their pictures (if I know them) or the bio (if I don't). Those used to be more emphasized; now they kind of blend in. I think they might have increased the font size on the list of friends/feeds/communities, probably to go with a more "social networking" site feel. The pictures especially are tough to find, since they named it "Scrapbook" (not intuitive to me) and it's really hidden in the busy stats list up top.

I do know that my usage and sense of aesthetics are probably not typical, which is why I'm not complaining.

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] av8rmike.livejournal.com
Another friend of mine had similar thoughts (in a locked post, otherwise I'd link to it) and also mentioned there were only about 800 signatures on the online "petition" to get the old page back. Being generous and assuming they're up to 1,000 signatures by now, using your same numbers that makes:
1000/4800 =~ 2.08% of commenters signed, or
1000/1880805 =~ 0.053% of active accounts.

EDIT: two things I forgot: the new layout can now hide communities of which a person is a member, one of the most requested features.
Nice icon! When I saw that picture in your account I thought it would make a worthy icon. ;)

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martygreene.livejournal.com
We actually took the photo with intent to iconize. I'm tempted to do the same with Hack, but I don't want to overdo it, y'know?

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pallmalls.livejournal.com
Funny, I wouldn't have even noticed, had you not mentioned it. I don't look at people's profile pages all that often, and mine is as bland and vanilla as it gets.

The only bad thing I have to say about it is that a single margin-to-margin column amd the use of horizontal rules looks amateurish, like the Web circa 1994. As far as content goes, who cares?

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martygreene.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't spend a whole lot of time on profiles either.

The rules are helpful for me, as they separate content nicely and allow me to see where things will collapse to, but yeah.

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Date: 2008-11-10 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marchenland.livejournal.com
But we just VOTED for change! (Well, some of us.)

Maybe that's all the change we can handle this week.

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I like the new layout and have been using it through the beta period.

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Date: 2008-11-10 05:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kingrat
I think all the wailing and moaning is humorous. Most of the complaints i've seen are more like "but you didn't ask meeeeeee!"

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Date: 2008-11-10 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martygreene.livejournal.com
yeah, I'm amused as well.

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Date: 2008-11-21 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] east-side-patch.livejournal.com
I hope you remember me.
I am East-side-patch.
I was rejected from this forum some time back from an individual that made me out to be an evil poster, I hope you remember. I have continued to follow this forum, as it was one of my favourite sites to visit, and still is. I would appreciate it if you would reconsider your decision. I have not seen one posting from the person that targeted me since my expulsion.
All I ask is that you reconsider your decision and track my postings.
Regards,
ESP.
http://east-side-patch.livejournal.com/
Thank you for your consideration.

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Date: 2008-12-19 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diffusedglow.livejournal.com
Hi! I've seen you on weirdjews, and now I notice you're in PGH too. A jewish gal who lists deutsch , synthpop, goth, and BPAL in her interests...wow, I've gotta friend you!

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Date: 2008-12-19 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monkeyman.livejournal.com
Hey there, stranger! ;)

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